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I am seeking help in a situation that has developed and enveloped my house in the past week or so. I thought I had seen enough over the years that I would never be in this position. Alas, that is not the case. Just so you know a snippet of what I am asking help for is a dear friend of mine, who is nearly my age (50), HIV positive and still a hard partying mofo on occasion fell off the wagon about ten days ago and wound up in a turkey fryer full of boiling oil with his maternal, social and faerie families.
He has been locked out of his apartment by his mother who was paying the rent because his Social Security, by itself, is barely enough for him to exist on month to month. When he fell off the wagon, apparently, it was the last straw for his 75 year old mother who has been helping him, bailing him out, and trying to help rehabilitate him over the years. When the landlord called to inform her of the current crisis she called his brother who flew into town to literally evict my friend from his apartment.
And that is just the beginning of the story. If you feel the call to help out I would certainly love to hear from you. You can reach me hear on Facebook or email at estebancdlm@verizon.com. Once we get in contact with each other I would appreciate being able to talk on that antique communication device called a telephone. I will share that contact info though on a more secure line.
Thank you for your patience ( if you have made it this far ) and I hope the answers to my questions are out there to find there way home to me, soon.
Blessed Be
Esteban de los Mariposas
In (Judy)Garland, TX where I am home from a wonderful four days at Camp "Camp" deep in the Ozark Mountains.
He has been locked out of his apartment by his mother who was paying the rent because his Social Security, by itself, is barely enough for him to exist on month to month. When he fell off the wagon, apparently, it was the last straw for his 75 year old mother who has been helping him, bailing him out, and trying to help rehabilitate him over the years. When the landlord called to inform her of the current crisis she called his brother who flew into town to literally evict my friend from his apartment.
And that is just the beginning of the story. If you feel the call to help out I would certainly love to hear from you. You can reach me hear on Facebook or email at estebancdlm@verizon.com. Once we get in contact with each other I would appreciate being able to talk on that antique communication device called a telephone. I will share that contact info though on a more secure line.
Thank you for your patience ( if you have made it this far ) and I hope the answers to my questions are out there to find there way home to me, soon.
Blessed Be
Esteban de los Mariposas
In (Judy)Garland, TX where I am home from a wonderful four days at Camp "Camp" deep in the Ozark Mountains.
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Re: Seeking help, please...
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 4:29 AMMy advice is for you to allow him to find his own solution. It will undoubtedly appear quite imperfect to you, but then no one's solution is perfect. It sounds as if he prioritizes hard partying over many things like a home, food, the trust of faily and friends. He capable of this is of course, when he can convince other people to be responsible for the essentials for survival. When someone gets burned out and refuses to ENABLE him to use all of his and some of their resources to continue hard partying, it is his right to choose one of the following: Manipulate his present enabler more effectively. If that fails find another with the same vulnerability and start anew. If no luck there, Steal or hustle to get enough money for the next hit of whatever it it is. Or change his cost of living so tthat he can survive and party on his SS check. Until such time as all resources are tapped out and he has no more enablers, no charms left to create new ones and he realizes how his priorirties are incompatible with life friends happiness love and family. At such a time HIS NEW PRIORITY (NOT YOUR PRIORITY) becomes to get well and do what is needed to survive by realizing that partying is incapatible with surviving.
The tough part about being the friend of such a fella is that giving into the temptation to bail him out and fix his problems FOR HIM usually results in being kicked in the teeth by him at some point in response. Your pupose on this planet is specifically NOT to be abused in this way to prevent him from perishing. Within a 300 mile radius of where you are right this moment there are hundreds if not thousands of addicts who are also unentitled to your sacrifice. In other words No one, especially your friend is entitled to treat you like shit, use you, then apologize only to do it again because to not do so means "turning on a friend." That's manpulive Bullship not friendship.
Addiction is a damn dangerous disease and frequently fatal. By now You have guessed that I have been through this. I learned one thing from it. The more I tried to help the more I contributed to the problem by helping to perpetuate it. At some point my "help" prevented the other fella from finding a workable sustainable solution. For that I had to ask forgiveness from him and from my own heart. It had to be his priority to find a discipline of thought hygiene that keeps him focussed in the present and practice it daily through much of the waking period. Sobriety is much much more than absence of intoxicants. It is mindful awareness of living and experiencing the joys and sorrows that is present every moment . This also means not living the shame, guilt, suffering of the past or worrying about the future or other peoples' lives and problems.
When he genuinely asks for help, direct him to resources like AA or NA and something like Buddhist meditation or an equivalent discipline of mindful awareness. If he is not receptive to this type of help,anything else you give him will cause more harm.
Good luck and lots of compassion,
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 5:58 AMThank you very much. This is one of the most heartfelt responses to a post I have had on Tribe.
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Re: Seeking help, please...
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 7:39 AMI would advise your friend to avoid 12 step programs as they are mostly a religious program and mostly Christian. Most meetings end in the Lords Prayer. The other problem with AA and the like is that they disempower people by trying to convince them they are powerless over addiction. The are in essence a faith healing program with a dismal success rate.
The truth is that self will is the key to recovery. We are not powerless. In adition to will power the support of friends, family and your own spiritual beliefs will help you stay clean and sober. Contrary to the teachings of the AA religion just stopping is enough. You really need just one step and that is to stop using. That is the essence of sobriety. Once you stop using other problems associated with using tend to work themselves out. Using causes other problems, other problems do not cause addiction. Simlpy put people use substances because of the temporary pleasure they give us.
I would not cut your friend off. Helping somebody is not enableing. Enabling only consists of giving them harmful substances or money for substances. Help in the way of shelter, food and friendship is not enabling. It is the human thing to do.
Here are two of the numerous alternatives to AA and NA
www.cfiwest.org/sos/index.htm
www.smartrecovery.org/
This is link to some information about why AA should be avoided
www.orange-papers.orwww.addictioninfo.org/article...nu1.html
www.addictioninfo.org/article...ge1.html
I would suggest that the most important thing to tell your friend is that he does have the power to stop. Any messages he gets that he is powerless will undermine his efforts to stop. Remind him that anybody who preaches that he is powerless is just wrong. Remind him that sobriety is defined by simply not using. Sobriety is a one step process. Empower him by encouraging is will power.
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Re: Seeking help, please...
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 8:52 AMNew link to Orange Papers www.orange-papers.org/menu1.html
And this link about a Federal Court decision that confirms that AA is a religion. The court ruled that because it is a religion that it is a violation of the U..S. Constitution to force people to attend in DUI cases or even in prison
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 4:42 PMI like the SOS link and the smart recovery link. Officer S Garry Nowak. Holden Police Department, Massachusetts has some strong views of semantics of addiction not being a disease. I feel these are too rigid and represent his law-enforcement mentality. The effect for many would be to provoke shame and guilt which are two activaters of addictive behavior. Other points he makes I find useful, however. -
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 4:58 PMThe article "alcoholics can drink safeley again" however, is probably the worst most injurious misconception I have read on alcoholism.
I have detoxed countless patients in DT's There is no doubt that the central nervous system is damaged in the long term servere alcoholic requiring heroic doses of sedatives during withdrawal such as intravenous phenobarbital and lorazepam to prevent death during withdrawal. And sometimes not even these prevent death from DT's.. To say that this is not a disease because it involves volition is as asinie as saying that a 300 pound person who developed dependecy on insulin to keep from dying due to his obesity doesn't have diabetes, Officer Nowack's understanding is clearly limited by his lack of education and knowledge. -
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 5:15 PMI agree that it is dangerous for people to attempt to return to "safe drinking." Permanent plannd abstinence is the most effective way to deal with a drinking problem.
Tragically the leader of a group called Moderation Management was involved in a fatal car accident in which a child and father in another car were killed. She had given up on the idea of moderate drinking and had joined AA and had a slip when the accident happened.
From the Wikipedia article:
"In January of 2000 Kishline posted a message to an official MM email list stating that she had concluded her best drinking goal was abstinence and that she would begin attending Alcoholics Anonymous, SMART Recovery and Women For Sobriety meetings while continuing to support MM for others.[2] Eight months later she relapsed, drove her truck the wrong way down a highway, and hit another vehicle head-on killing its two passengers (a father and daughter). Although Kishline is currently imprisoned for vehicular manslaughter, MM has continued to grow in her absence."
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Re: Seeking help, please...
Wed, June 17, 2009 - 3:51 PMI agree and I actually hesitated to recommend AA and NA because of the flaws in their method. It's great that you added the links of other resources!!!
( Please accept my apologies in advance. The next couple of paragraphs are a bit heady. I recommend reading through them a few times before posting a response)
AA was developed in 1934, by American alcoholic Bill Wilson who had ruined a promising career in finance because of his constant drunkenness. He was introduced to the idea of a spiritual cure by an old drinking buddy, Ebby Thacher, who had become a member of a Christian movement called the Oxford Group. Wilson was treated at Charles B. Towns hospital in New York by Dr. William Silkworth, who promoted a disease concept of alcoholism. While in the hospital, Wilson underwent what he believed to be a spiritual experience and, convinced of the existence of God, he was able to stop drinking.
AA's program is an inheritor of Counter-Enlightenment philosophy. AA shares the view that acceptance of one's inherent limitations is critical to finding one's proper place among other humans and God. Such ideas are described as "Counter-Enlightenment" because they are at variance with the Enlightenment's ideal that humans have the capacity to make their lives and societies a heaven on earth using their own power and reason. This is indeed one of the flaws I see in the program.
For people whose belief system paradigm is strongly Christian taught rigidly in childhood, the methods and steps in the program take advantage of previously learned neural pathway of the brain and patterns of thinking, often with effective results . There is a huge difference, however, between belief systems and ways of thinking between a Christian in the 1930's and a present day Radical faerie.
What works for one is often quite ineffective or even damaging for the other. I myself cannot for example improve my emotional health using Christian or Tibetan Buddhist liturgy while on the other hand I can tell you with no hesitataion that Buddhist-style mindful awareness meditation has saved me from perishing.
The reason I did suggest AA or NA is that within a group there are individuals who have learned the right combination of method on their own and with help of AA or NA structure that keeps focus on sobriety and living in the present--- despite the flaws in the program. Your friend might find such a person who could take him on in sponsorship. Alternative resources to AA or NA may not be available depending on the area in which he is living so the circumstance may be that though AA or NA may be flawed, it's all he's got.
Still It has to be HIS priority His desire. What YOU want is absolutely insignificant in terms of his recovery
Love and compassion,
Ash
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Fri, June 26, 2009 - 5:57 AMGreat news. My friend put down a deposit and signed a lease on a studio apartment yesterday. He begins the moving out process once all the festivities we have planned for our observance of the 40th Anniversary of Stonewall. And, to celebrate all the hard work he has done in the past few weeks we are going Wednesday to see Kid Rock, Lynard Skynard, and suprise special guests 07/01 at a local outdoor amphitheater.
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 4:24 AMWell done! Both of you!
I am glad to see for you that your sanctuary is again protected.
I an glad for him that He can plant a new seed and grow a new life that he can own!
Joy and compassion,
Ash
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